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Supply Chain Transformation Depends on Talent as Much as Technology

Noted by Martijn Graat · 487 reads

Bart De Muynck and Abe Eshkenazi say supply chain teams need people, trusted technology and collaboration to build resilience and agility.

Supply Chain Transformation Depends on Talent as Much as Technology

Supply chain technology can improve visibility and speed up decisions, but people determine whether those tools change daily operations. That was the central message from supply chain experts Bart De Muynck and Abe Eshkenazi on the Does Logistics Matter? podcast, hosted by Martijn Graat.

De Muynck, an industry expert and conference chair at ChainGE, and Eshkenazi, CEO of the Association for Supply Chain Management, discussed logistics, transformation and the capabilities companies need as their networks face ongoing disruption. Their point for operators is practical: investment in software needs to be matched by investment in the people who choose, implement and use it.

Logistics carries the customer promise

The conversation began with the podcast’s question, “Does logistics matter?” Eshkenazi’s answer was an emphatic yes. De Muynck argued that logistics has become critical because commerce depends on goods moving as promised. Sales and marketing teams may set expectations, but transport, warehousing and fulfillment determine whether a customer actually receives an order.

De Muynck compared commerce without logistics to a car without wheels. The image captures a basic operating reality: a product’s value depends in part on a supply chain’s ability to get it where it needs to go. Delays or interruptions can therefore affect more than transport performance; they can disrupt the commitments businesses make to customers.

The speakers described companies working amid pressure from pandemic-related delays, climate disruptions and instability. In that setting, the task extends beyond moving freight faster or spending less. Eshkenazi said businesses also need to deliver responsibly, resiliently and transparently. Those goals put more weight on knowing what is happening across the supply chain and responding as conditions change.

Visibility requires people to act on data

Three capabilities featured in the discussion: visibility, traceability and data-driven agility. Visibility helps teams understand where goods and processes stand. Traceability provides a way to follow products through the chain. Data-driven agility allows teams to use available information when adjusting plans.

Technology can support each capability, but installing a system does not ensure that employees will trust its information or use it in their work. Teams need processes that connect the data to operational decisions. They also need clarity about who is responsible for acting on an alert, updating a plan or passing information to another part of the business.

That makes digital transformation a change in work as well as a technology project. A platform may give planners a broader view of shipments, for example, but the value depends on whether the relevant teams can interpret that view and coordinate a response. Companies that begin with the tool alone risk overlooking the training, leadership and working practices needed to put it to use.

Retention is a key test for talent strategies

Eshkenazi cautioned that companies often start transformation by focusing on technology and give too little attention to the people expected to use it. The guests pointed to talent development, leadership and organizational culture as part of successful supply chain change. They also stressed the need for employees to trust the technology and for systems to fit the processes and needs of their users.

The conversation raised a specific workforce challenge: women are entering supply chain roles in greater numbers and can earn more than men at the start of their careers, yet the pay gap reverses over time. De Muynck and Eshkenazi described recruitment as improving while retention remains a weak point.

That distinction matters for employers building experience inside their operations. Hiring brings people into the organization; development, mentorship and workplace culture influence whether they stay and progress. The guests’ challenge to companies was to match claims about valuing employees with spending and mentorship that support them.

Collaboration can help teams adapt

Another theme was the need for collaboration. Supply chain problems cross company and functional boundaries, so no single team can resolve every issue alone. Eshkenazi urged listeners who are serious about transformation to speak with people in their networks, learn from one another and share ideas.

Those conversations can help teams compare how they approach process changes and technology adoption. They can also surface practical questions before a project reaches the people doing the work: where information needs to move, which decisions a tool should support, and what employees need to use it with confidence.

De Muynck and Eshkenazi also discussed how strategy connects people and technology, and how companies can attract and retain talent. Their message is that the result of a transformation depends on how well those elements work together. For supply chain leaders, the useful starting point is to understand the operational problem and the people affected by it, then align the process and technology with that work.

The full discussion is available through the podcast and podcast apps. The episode features Bart De Muynck and Abe Eshkenazi; Eshkenazi is also linked here. More information about the show is available at Logistics Matter. The source site lists its Rotterdam address and business details, and credits Commpany for website design.

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Source: Martijn Graat · logisticsmatter.com

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